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		<title>By: holycow</title>
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		<dc:creator>holycow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@danielle I know plenty of designers with degrees who have missed their calling as accountants, tech support, etc.

Many of these so-called &quot;design programs&quot; are no more than classes on how to use Photoshop. They aren&#039;t true art schools, they&#039;re not teaching design and how to communicate with visuals.

A degree isn&#039;t the proving grounds of whether or not you were designed to be a pastor, media director, graphic designer....you name it. The proof is the end result. Sure, sometimes the world will force a degree and is a necessary step in the process. But a degree doesn&#039;t set the calling and giftings, God&#039;s already taken care of that.

@flotsam Thanks...you&#039;re right. I remember times of arguing with God that he wasn&#039;t opening the doors for me to be on staff at 1 church...today I don&#039;t know what I would do if I had to only work with 1 church. He &lt;b&gt;always&lt;/b&gt; knows better...He sees so much bigger and more complete. I&#039;ve learned not to force it, wait on God&#039;s timing and let His ways prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@danielle I know plenty of designers with degrees who have missed their calling as accountants, tech support, etc.</p>
<p>Many of these so-called &#8220;design programs&#8221; are no more than classes on how to use Photoshop. They aren&#8217;t true art schools, they&#8217;re not teaching design and how to communicate with visuals.</p>
<p>A degree isn&#8217;t the proving grounds of whether or not you were designed to be a pastor, media director, graphic designer&#8230;.you name it. The proof is the end result. Sure, sometimes the world will force a degree and is a necessary step in the process. But a degree doesn&#8217;t set the calling and giftings, God&#8217;s already taken care of that.</p>
<p>@flotsam Thanks&#8230;you&#8217;re right. I remember times of arguing with God that he wasn&#8217;t opening the doors for me to be on staff at 1 church&#8230;today I don&#8217;t know what I would do if I had to only work with 1 church. He <b>always</b> knows better&#8230;He sees so much bigger and more complete. I&#8217;ve learned not to force it, wait on God&#8217;s timing and let His ways prevail.</p>
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		<title>By: danielle</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think about this a lot. i truly feel that God has called me to ministry, and even more specifically, THIS ministry. i also have been fortunate to take classes her-and-there, and to learn from fellow designers. a lot of times, though, i feel inadequate because i don&#039;t have a degree. i try to balance those feelings with the feelings of being called, but it&#039;s difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think about this a lot. i truly feel that God has called me to ministry, and even more specifically, THIS ministry. i also have been fortunate to take classes her-and-there, and to learn from fellow designers. a lot of times, though, i feel inadequate because i don&#8217;t have a degree. i try to balance those feelings with the feelings of being called, but it&#8217;s difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Flotsam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flotsam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Words of wisdom, Michael.  If I&#039;ve made one mistake repeatedly in my life, it&#039;s allowing myself to be placed into roles I wasn&#039;t called to - both inside and outside of church.  Each time, I rationalized my decision to take on the job by noting that it was an important task (it was), that SOMEBODY needed to do it (somebody did), I was capable of doing it (at least at a rudimentary level), I was secretly kind of honored to be asked (Hey!  Look at me!), and I was willing to do it (or, usually just afraid to say NO), so, I guessed I was the person for the job (nope, wrong).

While I managed to muddle through, it never felt right, and always resulted in frustration and friction with other priorities.  No sense of ministry or anointing, just a slog through to completion.

With my wife&#039;s help, I&#039;m leaning to say no (it&#039;s early yet, but initial indications are that The World may survive and continue spinning even without my help!), and I&#039;m working at remaining focused on those things I do know God has called me to.

The Blessed Bovine is right - it&#039;s better this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Words of wisdom, Michael.  If I&#8217;ve made one mistake repeatedly in my life, it&#8217;s allowing myself to be placed into roles I wasn&#8217;t called to &#8211; both inside and outside of church.  Each time, I rationalized my decision to take on the job by noting that it was an important task (it was), that SOMEBODY needed to do it (somebody did), I was capable of doing it (at least at a rudimentary level), I was secretly kind of honored to be asked (Hey!  Look at me!), and I was willing to do it (or, usually just afraid to say NO), so, I guessed I was the person for the job (nope, wrong).</p>
<p>While I managed to muddle through, it never felt right, and always resulted in frustration and friction with other priorities.  No sense of ministry or anointing, just a slog through to completion.</p>
<p>With my wife&#8217;s help, I&#8217;m leaning to say no (it&#8217;s early yet, but initial indications are that The World may survive and continue spinning even without my help!), and I&#8217;m working at remaining focused on those things I do know God has called me to.</p>
<p>The Blessed Bovine is right &#8211; it&#8217;s better this way.</p>
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