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		<title>By: danielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and also...getting critiques from non-creatives are some of the most painful moments of my life. can we &quot;train&quot; non-creatives to give good critiques?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and also&#8230;getting critiques from non-creatives are some of the most painful moments of my life. can we &#8220;train&#8221; non-creatives to give good critiques?</p>
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		<title>By: danielle</title>
		<link>http://jesushatespapyrus.com/excellence/seriouslythat-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-1055</link>
		<dc:creator>danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and also...getting critiques from non-creatives are some of the most painful moments of my life. can we &quot;train&quot; non-creatives to give good critiques?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and also&#8230;getting critiques from non-creatives are some of the most painful moments of my life. can we &#8220;train&#8221; non-creatives to give good critiques?</p>
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		<title>By: danielle</title>
		<link>http://jesushatespapyrus.com/excellence/seriouslythat-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there was recently a post in the lab and i suggested that the person stay away from ripping off of a popular television series and asked where the art came from, etc. the person deleted the submission and i&#039;ve been wondering, &quot;was it the way i said it or were they unable to take it?&quot; i can&#039;t remember who it was, so i can&#039;t really ask...but it bothers me.

it&#039;s really hard sometimes, but in order to do this better, we need each other&#039;s view points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there was recently a post in the lab and i suggested that the person stay away from ripping off of a popular television series and asked where the art came from, etc. the person deleted the submission and i&#8217;ve been wondering, &#8220;was it the way i said it or were they unable to take it?&#8221; i can&#8217;t remember who it was, so i can&#8217;t really ask&#8230;but it bothers me.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s really hard sometimes, but in order to do this better, we need each other&#8217;s view points.</p>
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		<title>By: danielle</title>
		<link>http://jesushatespapyrus.com/excellence/seriouslythat-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-1058</link>
		<dc:creator>danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there was recently a post in the lab and i suggested that the person stay away from ripping off of a popular television series and asked where the art came from, etc. the person deleted the submission and i&#039;ve been wondering, &quot;was it the way i said it or were they unable to take it?&quot; i can&#039;t remember who it was, so i can&#039;t really ask...but it bothers me.

it&#039;s really hard sometimes, but in order to do this better, we need each other&#039;s view points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there was recently a post in the lab and i suggested that the person stay away from ripping off of a popular television series and asked where the art came from, etc. the person deleted the submission and i&#8217;ve been wondering, &#8220;was it the way i said it or were they unable to take it?&#8221; i can&#8217;t remember who it was, so i can&#8217;t really ask&#8230;but it bothers me.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s really hard sometimes, but in order to do this better, we need each other&#8217;s view points.</p>
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		<title>By: holycow</title>
		<link>http://jesushatespapyrus.com/excellence/seriouslythat-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>holycow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ramble on Danielle...good stuff. You&#039;re right on, it is very difficult to produce excellence in an atmosphere void of critique. Unfortunately it can be just as difficult to find creatives who can take critique and non-creatives who know how to effectively give it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ramble on Danielle&#8230;good stuff. You&#8217;re right on, it is very difficult to produce excellence in an atmosphere void of critique. Unfortunately it can be just as difficult to find creatives who can take critique and non-creatives who know how to effectively give it.</p>
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		<title>By: holycow</title>
		<link>http://jesushatespapyrus.com/excellence/seriouslythat-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-1057</link>
		<dc:creator>holycow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ramble on Danielle...good stuff. You&#039;re right on, it is very difficult to produce excellence in an atmosphere void of critique. Unfortunately it can be just as difficult to find creatives who can take critique and non-creatives who know how to effectively give it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ramble on Danielle&#8230;good stuff. You&#8217;re right on, it is very difficult to produce excellence in an atmosphere void of critique. Unfortunately it can be just as difficult to find creatives who can take critique and non-creatives who know how to effectively give it.</p>
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		<title>By: danielle</title>
		<link>http://jesushatespapyrus.com/excellence/seriouslythat-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dealing with creative people is difficult because we all love our own work so much. what i&#039;ve learned (especially in the CMS lab) is that even the best designers have bad ideas and execution sometimes. i need to remember that #1 i am doing this to further the kingdom, and its not about me. my ego is not allowed. i need criticism to improve and learn. i need to dish it out and take it.

in meetings, i often use the phrase &quot;what if we,&quot; or &quot;could we try.&quot; i agree with you there. also, i think it&#039;s important to offer solutions. you cant just say, &quot;that sucks.&quot; you need to be able to back it up with something to improve it.

this might be a nice discussion topic in the lab. how to we give each other good feedback while being edifying? what is the most valuable criticism you&#039;ve ever received? something like that.

ramble ramble ramble. sorry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dealing with creative people is difficult because we all love our own work so much. what i&#8217;ve learned (especially in the CMS lab) is that even the best designers have bad ideas and execution sometimes. i need to remember that #1 i am doing this to further the kingdom, and its not about me. my ego is not allowed. i need criticism to improve and learn. i need to dish it out and take it.</p>
<p>in meetings, i often use the phrase &#8220;what if we,&#8221; or &#8220;could we try.&#8221; i agree with you there. also, i think it&#8217;s important to offer solutions. you cant just say, &#8220;that sucks.&#8221; you need to be able to back it up with something to improve it.</p>
<p>this might be a nice discussion topic in the lab. how to we give each other good feedback while being edifying? what is the most valuable criticism you&#8217;ve ever received? something like that.</p>
<p>ramble ramble ramble. sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: danielle</title>
		<link>http://jesushatespapyrus.com/excellence/seriouslythat-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dealing with creative people is difficult because we all love our own work so much. what i&#039;ve learned (especially in the CMS lab) is that even the best designers have bad ideas and execution sometimes. i need to remember that #1 i am doing this to further the kingdom, and its not about me. my ego is not allowed. i need criticism to improve and learn. i need to dish it out and take it.

in meetings, i often use the phrase &quot;what if we,&quot; or &quot;could we try.&quot; i agree with you there. also, i think it&#039;s important to offer solutions. you cant just say, &quot;that sucks.&quot; you need to be able to back it up with something to improve it.

this might be a nice discussion topic in the lab. how to we give each other good feedback while being edifying? what is the most valuable criticism you&#039;ve ever received? something like that.

ramble ramble ramble. sorry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dealing with creative people is difficult because we all love our own work so much. what i&#8217;ve learned (especially in the CMS lab) is that even the best designers have bad ideas and execution sometimes. i need to remember that #1 i am doing this to further the kingdom, and its not about me. my ego is not allowed. i need criticism to improve and learn. i need to dish it out and take it.</p>
<p>in meetings, i often use the phrase &#8220;what if we,&#8221; or &#8220;could we try.&#8221; i agree with you there. also, i think it&#8217;s important to offer solutions. you cant just say, &#8220;that sucks.&#8221; you need to be able to back it up with something to improve it.</p>
<p>this might be a nice discussion topic in the lab. how to we give each other good feedback while being edifying? what is the most valuable criticism you&#8217;ve ever received? something like that.</p>
<p>ramble ramble ramble. sorry!</p>
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